If you ever attend a religious service for any reason, how do you spend your
time? What goes through your mind?
So there we sat, a Presbyterian, an atheist, and a Jew listening to dreary pre-crucifixion music in an Episcopal church. I thought that at least, we were an ecumenical little group. I whispered to Marion that I didn't know
it was Lenten. I felt embarrassed that I had asked her and I was also feeling annoyed at Betty for not being more specific about the program,
and at myself for not asking. The music was so depressing that I whispered to Marion that this was enough to put you into to the doldrums. Marion and
I gave each other - what the hell are we doing here- looks.
The church had glass panels at the top of the walls where the roof beams joined. A bird outside kept flying around bumping into the glass. I
worried about the bird, hoping it would find its way out from under the eaves before it knocked itself out on the glass. I looked at my watch -
only 20 minutes had gone by - I hoped the program wasn't longer than an hour. But, there was another diversion - a member of the choral group
didn't sing. She stood aside from the group and interpreted the words into sign-language. She was very graceful and used her whole body. It was
almost like watching a modern dancer. She was fascinating and I divided my focus between her and the bird. I learned a few signs - love, in my heart, all over the world, and a few others. I did occasionally listen to the
words and thought, why don't Christians listen to themselves sometime.
Especially when they were signing about messengers of peace. The second
half of the program was a lot more lively signifying the resurecction and that segment wasn't too bad. It went a lot faster than the first part.
After the program we talked outside for a few minutes and I asked Betty (with a smile) if she realized that an atheist and a Jew where her companions to a Lent thingy. She said she didn't realize that herself. She thinks the choral group is wonderful and that they need the support of the
community. It's true they are a very good group. So what's an annoying
hour or so among friends? Marion and I think the world of Betty, she is a very lovely lady.
Being the only atheist in my family, I get roped into going to pageants where a grandchild is either an angel or a wise man if I'm visiting when these things come up or in going to a church service now and then. I live
in Florida and 3 of my children live in New Jersey and the other in California so these things don't come up that often. When they do, my
time with my children and grandchildren is so precious that I don't feel that it's appropriate to bring up this difference of views. (Eileen Camilleri #948)
Non-supernatural religion though is no problem. I regard my own humanism
as a non-supernatural religion. One has to have a basis for living, and
that basis is inevitably arbitrary, whether by "belief" or just by "acceptance". (Rumplestiltskin)
Seriously, I live in San Diego, and there are some fine old churches around here. I would be especially interested the colonial era churches because of the art work. Mexican religious art is a curious blend of old world and new world mythology. Apparently some of the artists who decorated the colonial churches incorporated some of the old gods into paintings and statues depicting the xian saints. I wonder if the priests knew what was going on.
(John Hachmann #1782)
The one exception was last year at the funeral of a co-workers child. During that service, the only thing in my mind was the angelic little face that would never grace the world again. It was only later that I became outraged at how horrifying and selfish the priest's homily was. (Paul J. Koeck #360)
I usually am silent, or speak softly to my dad (also an atheist). I stand respectuflly silent when it is required to stand, and sit otherwise. I
wear a kippah inside temple, but I do not wear a talit or te'filim. In
the one or two occasions when someone has apprached me and asked me to
wear them, I have respectuflly refused. My dad was threatened once that
if he didn't wear a talit he would be thrown out, so he left; I would do
the same.
What goes through my mind varies. Being a mathematician, I usually have
one or two problems to play with for which I do not need pencil and paper, and I can think about them. (-: I often count how many pages are left in
the service, or point out to myself the logical flaws in the sermon.
Going to services is not my favorite occupation. (Arturo Magidin #257)
Usually I treat it as a cultural event; I get to watch folklore in action, so to speak. I mentally cross-compare it to other services I've been to,
and note the points of doctrine. If it's a group I know the history of,
like the Catholics, my mind usually wanders off down paths of historical speculation - how much of the Mass is similar to the medieval ritual, how much is new? That sort of thing. I enjoy services with a lot of pomp and pageantry, for these reasons - Eastern Orthodox is nice that way. :) When the musical offerings are superior, I get the same type of exalted feeling that I do from good music in a concert hall, or even on the radio.
But I still don't believe a word of it. (April #1723)
I couldn't read a book as I normally do when I am forced to go to church (weddings only)
because I was sitting the front row close enough to feel the wind of the preacher's breath.
(Erikc #2)
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